Americans are now less likely to consider childhood vaccines as extremely important, with Republicans accounting for the drop.
  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    41·
    2 months ago

    In a sane country, that would be enough for CPS to take action.

    These people are intentionally risking their children’s lives. Because autism.

    Edit: Also, on Sunday’s last week tonight, Jon Oliver said RFK, Jr. has been offered a position in Trump’s cabinet as HHS secretary. How terrifying is that?

    • iamericandre@lemmy.world
      24·
      2 months ago

      These people are intentionally risking their children’s lives. Because autism.

      It’s because they’re fucking idiots

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        18·
        2 months ago

        Many people have also been convinced, through huge, well-funded organizations like Autism Speaks, that autism is a fate worse than death for a child. So it’s not entirely their fault. But they still should not be allowed to get away with it since vaccines are not related to autism.

    • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.socialEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      Their child’s life, but also the lives of others in their community. Many of these diseases rely on herd immunity to protect those with compromised immune systems (and even “healthy” people to a degree). Not to mention the harm done by creating a larger stigma around autism.

    • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      91·
      2 months ago

      CPS works real fast on poor families from cities. I refuse to believe they couldn’t start taking unvaxed kids, they just don’t want to for whatever reason. Probably they don’t want to appear political but I don’t think appearing unpolitical is going to save any lives so, sorry kids.

  • Bone@lemmy.world
    30·
    2 months ago

    And these people are represented by one of our major political parties (GOP). Tell me about death panels again…

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      91·
      2 months ago

      Before this though, if we didn’t have the right to mock them for the “death panels” thing before, now that some states are banning abortion even if both the mother and the fetus will die, we sure as fuck do now.

    • DistractedDev@lemm.ee
      53·
      2 months ago

      Or just get your kids vaccinated? Their kids will get diseases and natural selection will handle the rest

      • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        7·
        2 months ago

        That’s not really how every vaccine works. I work with people with compromised immune systems so I’ve been up to date on covid shots and boosters since they were available, I still got covid twice. Someone else’s preventable bad decision can still kill my kid or me, so no thanks.

        • Nougat@fedia.io
          3·
          2 months ago

          Being vaccinated against covid is not a guarantee that you won’t catch it If you do get infected, your symptoms and length of illness will be much reduced, because your body is already primed to recognize and fight the pathogen. I have to imagine that the same thing applies to any vaccinatble disease; the vaccine is not preventing your exposure to the virus, but to your body’s immune response when you are exposed.

          That’s on an individual basis. On the community scale, the more people who are vaccinated against a particular virus, the less everyone is exposed to the virus in the first place.

          • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            5·
            2 months ago

            That’s the problem, other people aren’t vaccinating their kids or themselves, there is no communiy scale protection if half the community isn’t protected, and in some places in America it’s way more than half.

            • Nougat@fedia.io
              22·
              2 months ago

              That is a problem. Thankfully, you get the same immune protection when you get vaccinated, regardless of who else does. Yes, without enough people community-wide being vaccinated, your exposure will be higher, but your own immune response doesn’t change.

              • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                4·
                2 months ago

                And the viral load you get is higher and from a virus that had more opportunity to mutate. So in a vaccum your immune response may be the same but in reality you immune system isn’t responding to the same thing. Also idk if you missed the part where my work involves immunocompromised people, so it’s not just my protection I have to worry about.