This is some timely reporting… I hadn’t heard about this event!! /s
What even is the point of this post? We all know Oct 7 was a horrific, disgusting operation. We all agree Hamas is evil. It’s almost like a certain group of people are still trying to justify the ongoing war crimes and crimes against humanity by Israel in Gaza and the West Bank.
This is some timely reporting… I hadn’t heard about this event!! /s
What even is the point of this post? We all know Oct 7 was a horrific, disgusting operation. We all agree Hamas is evil. It’s almost like a certain group of people are still trying to justify the ongoing war crimes and crimes against humanity by Israel in Gaza and the West Bank.
Actually, contrary to what you think you read, no one is doing that. The article was posted today, by human rights watch, so maybe you could email them asking about their timing. And there’s nothing in there about justifying violence.
However, I find it intriguing that you overlook the only other comment under this post attempting to justify Oct 7 (posted 40 minutes prior to yours). Almost like there’s direct evidence supporting the opposite of what you’re baselessly claiming.
https://lemmy.world/comment/11222615
Gaza was an open air prison enforced by Israel taking total control of Gaza’s borders, both north and south and even their sea border. It was a humanitarian crisis of people dying from lack of supplies like food and water.
What do you do as Gaza?
That post is not attempting to justify it. It’s explaining the reason. There’s a difference.
Torturing a person to death is wrong. But if a person is a victim of rape and domestic violence over a period of time by someone and they end up torturing and killing that person, I think most people understand why they did it.
Also, why did you post this? Are you trying to justify the actions that have been going on for almost a year now? Do you think it’s OK to kill 30,000 civilians and torture millions more in response to 700 civilians being killed?
It’s not justification, it’s a reason?
Justification:
the action of showing something to be right or reasonable.
Reason:
a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.
Reasonable
based on good sense.
I won’t be responding to you anymore.Edit: I’d like to document here (for myself mostly) how simply posting an article critical of Hamas’ actions is considered by members of this community as justifying violence.
Also because I think it’s funny considering the discussion chosen in the comments, FTA:
“Atrocities do not justify atrocities,” Sawyer said. “To stop the endless cycle of abuses in Israel and Palestine, it’s critical to address root causes and hold violators of grave crimes to account. That’s in the interests of both Palestinians and Israelis."
In other words, how I know the other two didn’t read the article without saying they didn’t read the article :)
You won’t respond to this, and that’s fine. But you didn’t answer the most important thing: Why did you post this oh so timely article? Did you post it to try and convince people why you think it is justified or reasonable or whatever sometimes synonym you want to choose (since cause and justification aren’t ALWAYS the same) that Israel is doing what they have been doing continuously for the past 10 months? Or was this news to you that you thought other people didn’t know about?
I will respond :)
I posted it because it was an article about a new report that came out today about very important current events, in my opinion. Why are you so sensitive about this article? (Purposefully ignoring the whataboutism, let’s all remind ourselves of what the article is about)
Edit: I don’t get the constant badgering about this being “timely” as the article came out today. Does anyone have any idea what they’re talking about?
Gaza was an open air prison enforced by Israel taking total control of Gaza’s borders, both north and south and even their sea border. It was a humanitarian crisis of people dying from lack of supplies like food and water.
What do you do as Gaza?
Didnt ask what dont you do
In your opinion, what do you do? I’ve narrowed it down for you by 1 option.
Fight to survive
I trust that when you say “fight” you don’t advocate for violence, considering we just eliminated that one option, correct?
In which case, I’d love to hear what you think that would entail.
You didnt eliminate shit, you dont have an answer for my question.
I do, I have more than just what not to do, I was hoping you could elaborate on an option other than violence. But it seems you can’t.
Before I give you what I think Hamas should do, are you declaring that you have no better option than violence, since that’s the only thing we eliminated? Unless that is, you advocate for violence.