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    (b) Improper time or place; civil penalties Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of— (1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection. Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.

    From 8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien. Please cite your source if you have it (we know you don’t)

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      Hey, I got not dog in this fight here, but that’s kind of a self-own. 8 U.S.C. § 1325 makes it a crime to unlawfully enter the United States. The US government literally calls it unlawful & a criminal offense for improper entry to the USA.

      Source: https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1911-8-usc-1325-unlawful-entry-failure-depart-fleeing-immigration

      Bonkers to me that you didn’t do 30 seconds of research.

      Also, I noticed you left out section (a) which discusses imprisonment for illegal entry to the USA.

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        Except it doesn’t. Section a) only covers lies told to border patrol not the entry by itself. Each section when reading US law is read separately unless specifically stated otherwise.

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          (a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts

          Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

          “Entering the US at any place other than as designated by immigration officers.” is not fleeing or lies. I genuinely don’t understand why you keep misrepresenting stuff that’s a click away.

          Also, why did you reply twice? Forget to change your socks?

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            Did you not read your own link twice now?

            The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) amended 8 U.S.C. § 1325 to provide that an alien apprehended while entering or attempting to enter the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty.

            Reading comprehension is hard but there you go just the relevant statute amendment that you sent me yourself. Have a nice day!

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        Your own link states:

        Section 1325 sets forth criminal offenses relating to (1) improper entry into the United States by an alien, (2) entry into marriage for the purpose of evading immigration laws, and (3) establishing a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading immigration laws. The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) amended 8 U.S.C. § 1325 to provide that an alien apprehended while entering or attempting to enter the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty.

        So civil penalty without enhancements like fleeing immigration officials.