I’ve definitely shared this concept or observation or whatever you want to call it before, but recent events have made me think of it again. I should clarify first that what I base this train of thought on isn’t entirely something that clicks for me, something I might not get into expressing, but it definitely makes you or at least me wonder why the implications in the train of thought aren’t considered, at least outside my occupation (since I’m in an occupation designed to work around the otherwise neglect of the concept), and I thought of running this by.

Back in the old days, it was common for business people to pay their workers more honestly, as in based on what they thought the worker seemed to deserve. Often the workers would seem underwhelmed. Organized criminals would then step in and say “you’ll get more out of us” and so that part of society grew. For some reason, the first thing within the mind of the people in charge, trying to assess everything, was “let’s invent this thing, we might call it the minimum wage”. Alrighty. So this side thinking, what do we think of it? Something happened, right?

So here is where the train of thought works into the picture. Matters of monetization are just one arena up the sleeve of bad actors. A lot of people feel abruptly socially isolated. When this happens, instinct is often to seek out companions. Social life might be dead or people might be avoidant. Someone I know is in such a situation. Along comes what might be called a bad actor. To them, they might see a potential extension of themselves with freedom of minimal effort. And voila, someone new joins the “bad crowd” or “dysfunctional crowd”.

Watching this unfold myself, I think to myself. Places have a “minimum reference point” for the topic of exchange/payment/whatever the word is, so then what does the non-thinking come from to apply this thought to the whole isolation thing mentioned? Anyone here have people they know who were absorbed into a bad part of society when everything seemed dead and thought “well, it’s not like anyone else was going to give them what they need”?

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    5 months ago

    But

    There should be a law

    Which means it should be a government thing, which means it needs a system, which means it needs an agency. Define the social needs you’re talking about meeting first or this whole post and every response is nothing more than masturbatory nonsense.

    Edit: and actually, now I want a proposal for what this system looks like. “People have problems and those should be addressed” is insubstantial to the point of being infuriating.

    • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeOPM
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      5 months ago

      Not everything that’s a law is an agency. I don’t have expertise in the jargon of law, but it would be defined as whatever amount of unfulfillment is sufficient for bad actors to take advantage of, as demonstrated by their practice of doing so. So maybe not “solid” but, like with other things, can be assessed/tweaked. I remember watching an interview with Leah Remini who said something along the lines of “cults” not growing out of what she refers to as stable societal environments. Relativistically, people can have at least a rough idea on what may qualify, even if not clear cut.