Are Men Killing the Planet?
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  • redpen@lemmy.worldOP
    22·
    1 year ago

    @CTdummy@artemis.camp

    Criticizing patriarchy is not attacking men or dividing groups.

    What an interesting thought given the title of the video is literally “are men killing the planet?”. People insist that blaming the patriarchy == blaming men yet in actuality this rarely seems to a distinction drawn by the same people who espouse the patriarchy rhetoric.

    Criticizing patriarchy as a harmful social system isn’t the same as blaming men for its existence. These concepts address different aspects of the issue. When we critique patriarchy, we’re examining how societal norms, institutions, and power dynamics contribute to inequalities and cause harm in different arenas, in this particuar instance, anthropogenic climate change. This critique focuses on the overall structure, recognizing that while men might benefit more, they aren’t individually responsible for creating or maintaining the system.

    Blaming men assigns collective responsibility to individual men for patriarchy’s existence. This overlooks the fact that many men also suffer from its constraints and norms. It’s not fair to hold all men accountable for a system they didn’t design or choose. Recognizing it and pointing it out, as this video does, can allow men, and anyone else, to potentially do something to address or change it in their own lives.

    Critiquing patriarchy acknowledges its impact beyond individual intentions. It’s about recognizing how certain norms and power structures disadvantage people of all genders. This critique seeks to promote change and equality by challenging harmful norms and dismantling systemic barriers. This benefits not only women but also men who want to live without rigid gender expectations.

    In essence, critiquing patriarchy aims to raise awareness for change without unfairly blaming men for the entire system. By understanding this distinction, we can collectively work towards a more just and inclusive society for everyone, while at the same time making progress on addressing the climate emergency.

    • CTdummy@artemis.camp
      32·
      1 year ago

      I understand the foundational concepts to the patriarchy idea and accept that some people who believe it can draw the distinction. My point remains that most do not. Including this video author who felt comfortable titling the video as they did. Even in the paper this video apparently references the paper starts with addressing the patriarchy and rapidly goes from that to pointing solely to “white men” as being the focal point of the issue/paper.

      I think that claiming there is absolutely no patriarchy or patriarchal element to society is disingenuous at best. That aside I think it is looked to as the sole reason or even the main reason for a lot of issues without cause and little to no scientific reasoning. If the world switch to being a matriarchy tomorrow it’d still be business as usual because it’d be women CEOs/interest group/corporate entities making billions in blood money instead. Trying to pin all of societies woes on the patriarchy just does not seem in anyway conductive to the larger issue in this context, which is climate change. Especially when it does so on shoddy papers like the one referenced in the video.

      • DessertStorms@kbin.social
        22·
        1 year ago

        Lmfao

        That aside I think it is looked to as the sole reason or even the main reason for a lot of issues without cause and little to no scientific reasoning.

        you being to scared to challenge your bias by actually looking up and finding said research doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

        If the world switch to being a matriarchy tomorrow it’d still be business as usual because it’d be women CEOs/interest group/corporate entities making billions in blood money instead

        [citation needed]
        But not really, this is a typical display of projection where a member of an oppressive group projects their way of thinking (there must be oppressors and oppressed) on to those seeking equality (hint: no one oppresses no one).

        Trying to pin all of societies woes on the patriarchy just does not seem in anyway conductive to the larger issue in this context

        only because it make you sooooo damn uncomfortable you can’t even seem to hear anything past the word “patriarchy” to take in the points it’s making, without cantering your own hurt feelings at being generalised “against” (boo fucking hoo) and getting ^^^this self defensive. If hearing bad things about the patriarchy hit such a massive nerve for you, have you ever considered fighting it, instead of those trying to abolish it?

        You are literally the child with their fingers in their ears and eyes shut yelling LALALALALALALLALA at the top of their lungs to avid hearing that broccoli is good for them 🤣🤣

        You’re literally demonstrating the problem, but you so adamantly refuse to even acknowledge said problem, you’ll never be able to even comprehend how.

        • TheDankHold@kbin.social
          21·
          1 year ago

          If Israel is any indication, oppressed groups are just as likely to oppress when power is acquired. Your belief otherwise is evidence to f your own bigotry. Humans are humans. Changing the gender doesn’t change geopolitics and thinking otherwise is painfully naïve.