• racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    6 months ago

    “Their system is really good and years ahead of competition but there’s still a shit ton to improve”

    Is it years ahead of the competition? I thought the consensus was that Tesla is far behind, hence why Mercedes is the first brand to actually have some basic level 3 automomus driving actually to customers, and companies other than tesla are actually doing tests with robo taxis. Tesla is good at claiming it can do the above, other companies are the ones actually doing it.

    And indeed, there’s a shit ton to improve, which directly contradicts statements Elon Musk made, and keeps making. As others already pointed out, calling it Full Self Driving while letting it do that is basically suicide is just the beginning. Elon Musk regularly repeating that it’s there, it works etc… only to leave customers waiting for nearly 8 years now with a system that is not what Elon described, etc…

    Self driving is really hard, Tesla made some good progress on it, but Elon continuously lying about it should indeed get legal consequences. I’m hope this lawsuit teaches him to actually talk about things he actually knows are true, and not just what he wishes was true.

    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      6 months ago

      I thought the consensus was that Tesla is far behind, hence why Mercedes is the first brand to actually have some basic level 3 automomus driving actually to customers

      Yeah that seems to be the consensus but I have no idea what it’s based on. When the Mercedes system is put against FSD it looks like this. The level 3 driving is available only on a handful of highways between LA, SF and LV and even then only in ideal weather and traffic conditions.

      If the competition really is ahead then where are all the videos of their vehicles doing what FSD does? There are countless accounts on YouTube demonstrating the capabilities of FSD driving both on highways and in cities but nothing about these other brands.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        6 months ago

        I have no idea what it’s based on.

        It’s obviously based on other makers being ahead.

        Mercedes, Waymo, GM, MobilEye, Nvidia are all ahead, making Tesla #6 at best.

        When the Mercedes system is put against FSD it looks like this.

        Are you misleading on purpose? Or are you really that dense?

        https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot

        Mercedes Calls their version of fully autonomous driving: Drive Pilot but you show a comparison to a way more basic Driving Assistant, which is nowhere close!

        This comparison shows that Tesla FSD in reality is merely a drive assist.

        • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          Are you misleading on purpose?

          The level 3 driving is available only on a handful of highways between LA, SF and LV and even then only in ideal weather and traffic conditions.

          Stated clearly in the very next sentence.

          This comparison shows that Tesla FSD in reality is merely a drive assist.

          Always has been. That video compares drive assist to another. Apples to apples comparison. What exactly is the issue here?

      • racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        Why don’t you ask the experts that rather than a random lemming like me? And why don’t you ask Elon why he keeps claiming it’s capable of more than it actually is?

        I honestly don’t care enough about it to do research, but you seem to. And i’d just love for guys like Elon to stop lying about what they have.

      • PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocksB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

        this

        Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

        I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.