• SbisasCostlyTurnover@feddit.uk
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    Is this one of those ‘difficult’ choices’ that they go on about? The one’s that almost exclusively fuck over the poorest in our society? Those choices?

    We’ve had thirteen years of ‘tough choices’. Maybe it’s time we tried something other than punching the poor?

    I dunno.

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    You know what Tories.

    If you have been beating the shit out of the donkey for 13years. But the stick aint getting it to go where you want.

    Maybe you have broken the poor fuckers back.

  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world
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    This is the phase of electioneering where they give the game away early so everyone can say “oh my God that’s disgusting and awful!” and get the majority of the public reaction out, so they can respond with “we haven’t committed to this, this is an overreaction”, followed by them doing that exact thing post election, with a more subdued and passive reaction from the public thereafter.

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    Of course. The UK is so fucked. You need to start producing something of value in this country, where is all this new money supposed to come from? You can’t keep cutting social spending indefinitely. Why not embrace the reality of a rapidly worsening climate and start producing technology for renewable energy here? It could create so many jobs. The UK is still an innovation powerhouse. If life keeps getting worse though, educated people will not only stop coming here but start to leave. Then there will be nothing left here

    • Bleeping Lobster@lemmy.world
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      I sent an energy strategy proposal to my Labour MP about 1.5 years ago. She seemed quite enthused by it and said she’d pass it up to the energy policy team, whether she did or not I don’t know, but Labour have been talking about a ‘transformative energy strategy’ with no details until manifesto… I really hope they implement it! It’s a very simple idea at its core, and the tech to accomplish it already exists.

      My idea: purchase a solar cell fabrication centre for each of the biggest (population) UK cities; in several towns around each of these cities, setup solar panel fabrication warehouses. Begin UK-gov funded and approved training schemes for solar cell fab, solar panel fab, solar panel maintenance. Almost give the panels away, at cost. Cover the UKs businesses and homes with solar; use old mines as ‘gravity batteries’ for offpeak demand; turn the UK from an energy-dependant state to an energy-secure state.

      The above will be very expensive. But, the value of being energy-secure is PRICELESS. Imagine UK industry being able to compete on the world stage again because we have near-limitless, incredibly-cheap power. Imagine the extra income citizens will have because it’s not all being sucked up by energy corps. Imagine the giant boost to the economy, all the green jobs created. We could even export energy once we have more than we need.

      We need big, bold ideas again.

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        Won’t somebody please think of the shareholders!? And spare a thought for those poor CEOs who might have to sell a Ferrari in order to eke out a meagre living if the taxes go up by 1%!

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          That’s the rub, they wouldn’t have to sell anything. There would be absolutely zero change to their lifestyle. The only difference is that the impossibly high numbers on their profit statements would be a little lower. They’d only be able to hoard away enough money for 1000 lifetimes of unimaginable luxury instead of 1001 lifetimes. It’s so ridiculously preposterous that governments are catering to the biggest misers on the planet instead of helping people who are literally starving and homeless.

    • Aux@lemmy.world
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      I sure do want tax cuts, not a fan of subsidising Rishi’s chopper and other ventures. If I can’t get proper services from the NHS, then what’s the point of feeding our aristocracy? Fuck taxes!

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          Yes. But while we have the current government I don’t want to pay taxes.

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        Object to those things not paying for things. The tories cannot be trusted with anything economics related but letting them cut taxes is not going to help with them doing those things

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          That will help me save my money and be able to afford services which the government is unable to provide for me.

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        Yeah, I kind of get what you mean. It’s frustrating to see tax money wasted on pointless right-wing-wank-fantasies and bungs of money to their friends’ companies, but if they talk about cutting welfare to cut taxes, they’re not going to touch landlord benefit, offshore tax benefit, house of lords benefit, too-many-houses benefit etc.

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        It is fun to pay so much tax and productivity into a country/society that gives you so many middle fingers in return.

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    Phew, and there I was, worried that we might start taxing the rich more than a miniscule amount.

    Really dodged a bullet there. What would they have done if they couldn’t afford their nightly bottle of 1907 Heidsieck Champagne?!

  • Chaotic Entropy@feddit.uk
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    The Tory solution to everything… slash social programs and put money back in their own/donor pockets. Then throw enough scraps to the lower classes that they can get on board despite them also shouldering the burden of the cuts.

    “I slashed your tyres, but here’s a fiver. Go me.”

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Though Jeremy Hunt said the government was “not in a position” to contemplate a decrease in tax immediately, he warned that the welfare budget could be hit further down the line to foot the bill.

    The welfare system has to be a “mix of carrot and stick”, with more assistance required to help people find work given there is “no shortage of jobs”, he added.

    His comments came ahead of the Conservative party conference, starting on Sunday, and after it was revealed that the UK economy grew faster than had first been thought between January and March this year.

    There is no shortage of senior Tory figures urging the chancellor to announce tax cuts, including former prime minister Liz Truss, one of several expected to speak out against current taxation levels during the conference.

    Truss’s mini-budget 12 months ago, delivered by her then chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng, sent the value of the pound tumbling and mortgage rates soaring due to the market’s adverse reaction to its £45bn of unfunded tax cuts.

    With a general election expected in 2024, the chancellor could use his spring budget to unveil tax cuts ahead of the next Tory manifesto being published.


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    How can the UK get rid of their first past the post system? The other side seems just as bad.