• ramble81@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    This is a similar argument I make when asking people if they truly believe in god and the religion they do or if it was just indoctrination due to who they were born to. A lot don’t like the cognitive dissonance of thinking about what would have happened if they were born in India

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      9 days ago

      I like to remind them about the devout girl that was kept in a basement and sexually abused by her father. Whatever she did to “deserve it”, they certainly did worse, so they should go through the same. But I personally refuse to worship such a god.

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          9 days ago

          Its not a joke if it is true… even if it is because of artificially induced conditions. Nobody argues that it wouldn’t be a boon being born in the EU for instance.

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          9 days ago

          But certain countries are better to be born into than others. Like, I would hate to be reincarnated into North Korea or Russia. This has nothing to do with the people themselves, but rather the rules and rulers of the country. It’s not racism to dislike the idea of being born without basic rights.

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            My bad. I just don’t like generalizing large swaths of people and places as better/worse. Just feels like a slippery slope to saying “all Russians bad” or whatever groups of people because you believe are worse off. I get the point, I still think it’s problematic. I’m sorry

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              You’re not wrong. It’s really pumping up a degree of nationalism that is unhealthy to take for granted. If you change out ‘Russia’ for other countries you start see the baby’s reaction relies on prejudices on politics and current events. If it was ‘Mexico’ or ‘China’ it suddenly feels a little more racist.

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                It’s not racism, nor is it nationalism. I live in America, it fucking sucks here and I’d like to leave. But it’s still better than North Korea by leaps and bounds, and I would choose to be born here again if those were the only choices. Same with Russia, same with China.

                Are you really trying to defend the living conditions in a country like North Korea? It’s not racist to say it sucks there, that’s just a fact.

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                  8 days ago

                  In that line of thinking: what does the comic say if ‘Russia’ is exchanged for ‘North Korea’? Is the point of the comic just to flatly express that one nation state sucks in comparison? If so, that’s kind of a shitty sentiment–and dare I say nationalistic.