The super privacy-focused third-party ROM, GrapheneOS now officially supports the Google Pixel 9, 9 Pro, and 9 Pro XL.

The super privacy-focused third-party ROM, GrapheneOS now officially supports the Google Pixel 9, 9 Pro, and 9 Pro XL.

    • cron@feddit.orgEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      It takes a year or so until the second hand market has plenty to offer. But already a few days after the release you can find the first offers.

      • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
        51·
        2 months ago

        is there any benefit to wait for 9 series second hand market to be competitive over buying 8 today?

        • cron@feddit.orgEnglish
          6·
          2 months ago

          I have the Pixel 8a. For me, it’s really a great phone. As far as I know, the 8a is never going to get the “Gemini AI” software due to limited memory (does not apply to 8/8pro).

          Camera, performance, screen etc is mostly similar as I heard.

          • Defaced@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            That’s odd, I installed the Gemini app on my 6a like a week ago. Unless you’re specifically talking about grapheneOS.

            • cron@feddit.orgEnglish
              5·
              2 months ago

              Whats not aupported is to run gemini nano directly on your phone. The default gemini (in the cloud) works fine.

        • 474D@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          Wait for a black Friday deal. I traded in my 4a previously and upgraded to a 7a for $150

    • evo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      311·
      2 months ago

      There isn’t a chance in hell you’re getting Gemini Nano outside of the stock ROM.

        • evo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          11·
          2 months ago

          Because it’s proprietary software. They have an open source model (based off it) called Gemma but Gemini Nano is super locked down. There aren’t even public APIs for 3rd party developers to use it through the OS yet.

            • evo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              41·
              2 months ago

              None of those are cutting edge AI models that could be ripped open and examined if people had access to the files. It’s not just an app or something, there are internal trade secrets at risk.

        • Noxious@fedia.io
          1011·
          2 months ago

          Because Google is a monopolistic piece of shit and they try to lock you in to their shitty, privacy-invasive ecosystem. In my opinion it’s like a hundred times worse than Apple. Only Google hardware (phones and tablets) are worth buying, but only for the strong hardware security features, definitely not for the stupid proprietary software they come with by default.

              • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
                61·
                2 months ago

                Not to mention that even with the stock OS you can disable most if not all sniffing components. Of course Google still has root but they don’t put their typically don’t embed obfuscated stuff because they don’t need to.

                Note that I’m not arguing that Google isn’t privacy invasive “because you can turn it all off.” The user shouldn’t have to go through this trouble to recover their privacy and the user experience definitively degrades if you do.

            • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
              71·
              2 months ago

              Definitely high. It’s pretty funny how people manufactured this privacy perception and projected it over Apple. Apple was happy to capitalize on it and keep it going. Reminds me of the security perception over BlackBerry. Hot air either way.

    • mholiv@lemmy.worldEnglish
      121·
      2 months ago

      Who knows. We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app and give it NPU permissions.

      The exciting bit is that we know you can deny internet access and all the picture AI stuff still works.

      • evo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        14·
        2 months ago

        The exciting bit is that we know you can deny internet access and all the picture AI stuff still works.

        Source? There’s no way any of the offline stuff works.

            • mholiv@lemmy.worldEnglish
              31·
              2 months ago

              It does?

              Pixel Camera (previously known as Google Camera) can take full advantage of the available cameras and image processing hardware as it can on the stock OS and does not require GSF or sandboxed Google Play on GrapheneOS. Direct TPU and GXP access by Google apps including Pixel Camera is controlled by a toggle added by GrapheneOS and doesn’t provide them with any additional access to data. The toggle exists for attack surface reduction. Every app can use the TPU and GXP via standard APIs including the Android Neural Networks API and Camera2 API regardless.

              TPUs and GXP are what enable apps to do on device ais with whatever model they choose to bring.

              • evo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                11·
                2 months ago

                Lol. That’s the hardware. Of course it has access to the device hardware. You still need software. All of Google’s local AI features use Gemini Nano, which absolutely 100% I guarantee you will not ship with GrapheneOS.