Branch Metrics sucks. They fired almost of all people working for Nova.

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      It’s pretty much already very usable. I have been on version 12 alpha for a long time and now on 14 beta 2, all in all since nearly a year.

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        Seems like it is missing a lot of the conveniences that I was once used to with Nova, though. No ability to reposition the search bar or keep it in place on other pages, no docked apps, no button to open the app drawer, the home screen grid has fixed padding and so on.

        I’ve since switched to Niagara which has been okay, but I’ve never found anything else like Nova since.

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        I’ve had it freeze up on me several times, where I had to reset the app to get it working again. It works most of the time, but I wouldn’t recommend it yet for general use.

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      Lol development on it halts and resumes almost randomly, I’ve given up hope long ago.
      Which really sucks as it’s the only launcher to have QuickSwitch support AFAIK.

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        Development has been steady. 8 beta has been available with about monthly updates for a few years or some such, in official Nova Discord.

        They launched the beta in play store recently as well. Been using the beta since they shared the first apk.

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    Immediately switches to google play to turn off auto update for Nova Launcher

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    Meh. Nova is the best launcher in my opinion but I’ve already been version locked to the last release before this company bought it. I’ve basically given up in anyone else replicating the features I want. So I’ll be using this version of Nova until Google finally breaks it.

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      Same! I refuse to update it and got a little annoyed at a post I saw where the dev (at least I think it was him) said “hey it’s 1 year later and the world hasn’t exploded”. Found that a little annoying.

      Let’s hope he gets control of the app back and can do nova again, without this shit baked in.

      Edit: guess I should have RTFA first. Gross

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        7.0.57. I’ve had no android issues with this version. I don’t feel like I’m missing any features by refusing to update.

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    weird. who could have predicted a rug pull from an analytics and spyware company… lol.

    if you get in bed with adtech vipers and don’t anticipate problems, you’re gullible as hell. if you don’t stop them (or worse, if you let them) ad people will sell you, your soul, and your passion to the devil for a single penny.

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      It could be worse, like zipoapps that immediately ruined the simple mobile tools with ads and scammy weekly subscriptions

      At least, for now, it looks like they acquired it for philanthropic reasons

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    What is the best replacement? I’ll hold on to Nova as long as possible, but if for some reason they screw it in some way…

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      LawnChair is the best option I’ve tried that has a similar design to Nova.

      I’ve tried at least a couple dozen launchers since Nova got bought. Most of them are either half-baked or have a very different design (e.g. based on radial menus or text-only lists). If you’re into minimalism, there are a lot of good options. If you want a full-featured icon grid that behaves more or less like Nova, LawnChair is it.

      I’m running LawnChair 14 Beta now. You can get it off the GitHub. Last I checked, the version on Google Play was very old.

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        Does the new beta have the same features as the old one yet? Last time I tried it, I couldn’t get it to work quite the same way.

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          Do you remember which features specifically were missing? It might be something I haven’t used. For me it was a pretty straightforward upgrade from version 12.

          The only problem I ran into was that adding widgets was a little funky when changing the grid size. I think I had to add the widgets before changing the grid size (I use a 5x10 grid) or they didn’t align correctly. I encountered similar problems with many of the launchers I tried.

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        I don’t understand why someone would want a “search-focused” launcher. You mean I have to bring up the on-screen keyboard and type out the name of an app instead of just scrolling & tapping an icon with 1-2 simple motions? Yuck. What am I missing?

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          I too would be put off if it had to be used that way. But it can be used as a regular icon tapping launcher - it has a regular app drawer - which is how i use it. I don’t think it should market itself as a “search-focused” launcher.

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          I’ve never heard of Kvaesitso in particular, but I like simple, search focused launchers as they force you to specify what you want to do on your phone instead of letting you mindlessly open e.g. a distracting social media app.

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          You mean I have to bring up the on-screen keyboard and type out the name of an app instead of just scrolling & tapping an icon with 1-2 simple motions?

          It just means you have the option to do both. Kvaesitsio has the app drawer one would expect, and a persistent search bar.

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            Oh ok, thanks. Does it do homescreen icons and widgets? Last I tried it there was something I didn’t like but I can’t remember what.

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              Can do homescreen icons. It has a widgets “pane”. You don’t place them on the home screen but put all widgets together than swipe to widgets. You can configure kvaesitso so it’s not too different from stock android experience.

              I have 5 “favorite” apps at bottom of screen, above the search bar, similar to stock android.

              I swipe left for my app drawer, which allows for more pinned favorites above full list.

              I swipe up for all my widgets.

              Swipe down for notifications, like stock.

              Swipe right for my camera app.

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          If you have 100+ apps you’re going to need either a ton of organization or a search tool. Some people will meticulously organize their apps into folders, while others go for the search

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        I’ve also been using it for a while but I do have complaints. They introduced a few minor bugs when it went from omega to neo and despite them being reported over a year ago they’ve not made any fixes since. I use it because it’s alright and not spying on me, but I’m always on the lookout for an improvement.

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      I’m pretty happy with total launcher in combination with app search since I didn’t like totals app drawer.

      Edit: I just found OpenLauncher and I’m going to test that out.

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        I use total launcher also.

        It’s cumbersome. It’s pain in the ass. But it works great with my pixel fold. I love it.

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          +1 for total launcher, it’s customization is unmatched, paired with TREK: Total Interface (best 4 bucks I ever spent) and some tweaks you can end up with a slick Star Trek LCARS launcher

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      I used Smart Launcher for a couple years. Functionally, it was on par, if not better, from my perspective

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      commenting to watch for replies, because there’s about a million of them and i will probably never feel like doing research on launchers

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      I loved Nova, but a couple of years ago, I found AIO, and it just blew nova out of the water for me. I look around to see if anything better comes along, but so far, I’ve not seen anything that gets close to AIO for me. It is so customizable, everything on one vertical scrollable screen, email, notifications, calendar, apps, weather. I absolutely love it!

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        This,kvaesito and lawnchair are the only true alternwtives, but they are pretty different from nova and conventional launchers. lawnchair is the closest to those.

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      I’ve been using Microsoft launcher for about a year now. It’s surprisingly very customizable.

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    we were all scared that they would do data mining or introduce ads on the launcher. They promised that they wouldn’t. Surprisingly, they kept the promise.

    I’m surprised that could feed a team of 12 devs with a free app with small one time payment to unlock power features.

    Isn’t the app mature enough to have a just full time dev behind to keep it updated with api changes?

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      Branch is apparently a $4B Silicon Valley startup, that raised $300M just two years ago. They can afford Nova’s team of twelve, or at least more than one fucking dev. They even fired Cliff, the one guy doing support (social, Discord, email, etc).

      That said, I wish they wouldn’t have sold out. Nova is one of the few things I want to subscribe to, very well earned. Nobody can reasonably complain about $10-20 per year for “Prime Ultra” or something. I don’t even see a donate button in settings.

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      The reason Branch bought Nova is to use it for A/B testing and feedback (via Nova Discord), to test for things they could add in their other products.

      One such feature is the new cards and search features. Nova doesn’t spy on you and they didn’t add ads, they just rely on the feedback given by the userbase.

      Sadly they bow fired two employees whom, if I recall, handled support and PR. This means that the solo dev will have to do that too, which means slowdowns and less features in the future.

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    Fucking hell.

    I’ve been using Nova for years, it’s nice there are replacement recommendations on this thread.

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      For people who did not click the link:

      The original Nova team, for many years, was just me. Eventually I added Cliff to handle customer support, and when Branch acquired Nova, Cliff continued with this role. I also had contracted Rob for some dev work prior to the Branch acquisition and some time after the acquisition closed we were able to bring him onboard as a contractor at Branch.

      However, I’ve always been the lead and primary contributor to Nova Launcher and that hasn’t changed. I will continue to control the direction and development of Nova Launcher.

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        This reminds me of my neighbor informing me, that he is leaving WhatsApp, because he heard somewhere that WhatsApp is going to give all of his chats to advertisers. He switched to Signal for about a month, found out that nobody is there and it’s happily back on WhatsApp. All of this because WhatsApp allowed brands to store chats somewhere, the chats between the user and that specific brand. People often blow things out of proportion.

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    This basically means I’ll ditch Samsung, because frankly their stock launcher sucks donkey balls.

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      I’ve been using Square Home on my samsung after I got bored with Nova and quite enjoy it

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    Aw man! I’ve used nova launcher for probably about a decade at this point :(

    There’s no way in hell I’m going back to SMASNUG’s crusty launcher. What’s the next best thing that isn’t a beta test?

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    I’m still looking for a launcher similar to nova. The two big things I want are the swipe action on homescreen icons. For example I set the swipe up on my phone app to directly call someone. And I have the swipe up on other apps open a separate app instead. Other thing is being able to create folders of apps in the app drawer.

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      Same! Except I use swipe up to go to Google voice and swipe down to go to contacts.

      Folders are also clutch. I don’t want to search for my apps.

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    i’m still using nova (was a premium subscriber from before the sale) does anyone have anything compariable? mostly the ability to use legacy icons, scale the grid size, have multiple tabs and folders, hide icons, assign icons to multiple folders (and hopefully import nova launcher backups into a new place)?

    i’m fine with google play though i’d love it if it was on fdroid or neo store.

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      I replaced Nova with Kvaesitso and honestly its pretty awesome.

      Its more limited than Nova was but it meets my use cases. The biggest adjustment was using labels to filter things instead of using folders, which I’ve actually come to like better.

      But plenty of customizations for everything else you mentioned and more.

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        i dont think its a subscription. you can download it anytime but they have nova prime which has additional features for a one time cost

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    I’ve been using Nova for a very long time. It has saved me all kinds of annoyance as I’ve switched phone brands and OS versions, since my basic UI has remained consistent.

    Unless it actually takes a dive in quality, I will continue to use it, but this is disappointing news.

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    I looked for a new launcher when the sale was anounced a year ago and was sad to find no launvhers I can customize that much.

    I went for Kvaesitso (https://github.com/MM2-0/Kvaesitso also on F-Droid) and stuck with it since. I really like the concept althought it might not be for everyone.

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      All I want is to remove the mandatory google search bar and calendar/weather widget at the top of the home screen on my pixel.

      While alot of the third party launchers I’ve seen look cool and functional, in this case I would love just more simple one.

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        You might be interested in lawnchair. It’s open source and based off the Google launcher (AFAIK) but you can remove the search bar and other things.

        The one on f-droid is two versions out of date. Latest one is from their website:

        https://lawnchair.app/

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          It’s almost perfect. I all miss, is the ability to stack the icons on a folder, and set the folder background transparency when expanded.